Cyclone Involved in an Accident
I was involved in an accident at 5:00 AM on Tuesday. At a minimum, I have a broken nose, a knee that was banged hard on something, a bad back that has gotten worse, and a possible concussion with a bad headache. I was released from the emergency room Tuesday morning with little having been done, and am headed to my personal Doctor in about 10 minutes. Maybe later today some emails will be answered, and a condition update will be given. Other than that, don't expect any posts of substance until I figure out what all is going on. Thinking and staring at a computer is not a strong suit at the moment. I apologize, but have am confident that you guys and gals can keep the dialogue going until I can re-engage. I AM NOT IN GITMO, OR ANY OTHER GODFORESAKEN HELL HOLE. Sorry, and thanks for understanding.
Cyclone
posted by cyclone @ 5:14 AM
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19 Comments:
Sorry to hear that Cyclone
Get beter soon
Sean
Glad that it was just an accident and your all beat up. Due to the paranoia about the government I was concerned with another worst case scenario involving you.
So folks, I guess Cyclone won't be agitating our brain cells for a few days. I for one would like to continue hearing from all of you on the variety of subjects we have batted around.
We also might like to start digging up some new subject matter to see if Cyclone has information on it. For instance, I am quite interested in learning what the defenses and rational are for the neocon actions. I prefer to get it from someone other than the ‘foam at the mouth’ fence post mentalities of the sub human Rush Limbaugh and Mike Savage types. It embarrasses me a bit to realize that I really don’t know what their thinking is. I would imagine there are some out there that think what is going on is just fine, and I have heard a few apologists on the TV but that was primarily political slathering. Even the Nazi’s had their intellectual defenses, slimy as they were.
Another thing that interests me is the communities that are starting to organize now around the Peak Oil issue. I know there are some, we have heard of a few on other web sites. Arcadia CA I know is one. Anyone out there know of others and what they are doing? We are starting to introduce the subject to our own little community now, with articles in the local paper and if we can get any reaction, get meetings and seminars going this spring. (That is, if the economy is still operating by then, otherwise have to start sooner.) As Cyclone has several times mentioned, my wife and I are pretty sure that the small community getting organized is the way to go. Paula has put out a currency concept that has merit and should be considered. Let’s get some more dialogue going on this.
I, too am sorry to hear about your accident...lay back and take it easy for awhile. From experience I know that the stress from the adrenaline shot of being in an accident lasts longer than one might expect.
yer Austin buddy
I'm sorry you are hurting, Cyclone. Take it easy and heal up. I'm certain that we all send you good thoughts.
Your writing has attracted a lot of thoughtful and articulate readers who contribute many interesting ideas and other blogs and sites that continue to challenge my thinking. Can't belive the enormous volume of info on the web. Puts my head on the brink of explosion sometimes...like reading hundreds of alternative newspapers, only they are in cyberspace.
All the best to you, Cyclone
Rockpicker,
That brick oven sounds 'way cool. In our little town we have a Cast Iron Club where people get together and have cookoffs using fire pits using wood for fuel and cast iron pans like the cowboys used. Good stuff, and fun activity for all. I also bought a little BBQ thing from South Africa called a Cobb Grill. It was originally made to burn corn cobbs (very available in Africa) and it is insulated so the outside doesn't get hot. Great for a boat, or around little kids. You can even make soup in it. Saves on charcoal - only uses 8 pieces per meal. I ordered it on the web.Your brick oven would probably be great for Indian flat bread, too. People getting together and cooking and dancing or making music together sounds like a good time to me!
Rockpicker,
I find very interesting you post about a hearth oven. We have been talking about making something like this for some time. We were considering more along the lines of a Mongolian cooker. The style oven you describe has been used in the northern European houses to cook and to heat the house with great success until modern central heating came along. It hadn’t occurred to me to use it as a community oven. I like the idea. Thanks.
I went to your search engine, mymy.com. It is laid out different and my initial reaction was that it was a bit clumsy, but I suspect just due to it’s unfamiliar design, at least unfamiliar to me.
Now, about Sibel Edmonds. I hate to be so ignorant about something you obviously feel is so important, but I know nothing about who that person is or their significance. Can you fill me in on her?
Cyclone...Most sincere hopes for a speedy recovery and letting you know we will be missing you intensely...please check in on occasion and give us your prognosis on your wellbeing....
Rockpicker.....Oven sounds terrific...how about some specifics on construction..(Maybe you can post on your web site as well)....
Greetings to all the other participants of the site and hopeing that sometime we can all meet one another.
Franz
Rockpicker,
Geez man, my Road Atlas doesn't even list a town called Virginia City, Montana. Where is it? New settlement? Back in the 60's I did a brief stint on a ranch in Montana. Childhood dream of cowboys and all. Loved it.
Some questions about this oven. Anonymous asked about rough plans etc. for it. I am also interested in that. Is it enclosed in a building? If not, how do you deal with 4 feet of snow around it? What were the materials used?
Want to investigate if it is a feasable project this summer.
Hate to hear about the wreck. I know your knee feels like and looks like a cantaloupe. Been there! Done that! Try soaking it in hot water. That helped mine out after I flipped my old Baracuda back in '79. Don't worry about us. we'll be keeping the lights on for ya!
Rockpicker,
Went to the site.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0601/S00177.htm
It appears this is another of a long line of whistle blower suppression. Of course, this kind of suppression has been going on for a long time, clear back to pre 1900. It is so much more pervasive now and so much more savage in many ways. One of the things I think it wise to keep in mind that the whistleblower may or may not be legit and may have an agenda also. It is one of the traps that citizens can fall into. Because we disagree so much with this administrations policies and actions, it is easy to accept at face value others criticisms of it also. It may well prove fruitful to pursue this information.
Rockpicker,
Back in the 60's, I was living in Michigan, within driving distance of Ann Arbor. At that time there was a Latvian community from Europe. One of the first things the women did is have the husbands build and outdoor hearth oven to make bread, which they sold in speciality stores. I used to go to Ann Arbor specifically to get the bread. They made it in 20-50 lb. wheels and you bought it by the pound, the store cutting off the wheel about the quantity you wanted. It was tremendous bread, close to black in color. A couple pieces of toast made with it was a meal by itself. I have never been able to find it again.
Have any recepies for Latvian black bread?
Cyclone -- sorry to hear about your accident, heal soon!
murph -- you can learn a lot about the neocon philosophy if you google "Shadia Drury." She is a professor of philosophy and has studied and written extensively about the neocons. I posted a link to an interview the other day but it evidently didn't work. This is hte same interview, at a different site: http://dks.thing.net/ShadiaDruryIsRight.html
About Peak Oil preparation -- most preparation appears to be taking place in northern California and Oregon. I lived in Portland for a long time and was at one time planning to return there to get involved in preparations and ride out collapse.
However, the preparations going on there are decidedly Marxist, and no one would discuss anything having to do with currency or local economic functioning. When I brought up the subject on various mailing lists and such, I was either rebuffed or ignored. So, I have decided to stay right where I'm at, and do what I can here, because that kind of preparation is going to fail in too many critical ways.
Any community Peak Oil preparations that do not include attention to currency systems are doomed. Peak Oil will be experienced as an ECONOMIC phenomenon; the collapse we experience will be an ECONOMIC collapse; the destruction wrought by Peak Oil will be against CURRENCIES. Creating networks of local organic farmers is certainly useful, but local organic food is going to be useless unless people can actually purchase the stuff.
Communities that are preparing for Peak Oil, so far as I can tell, are making the assumption that the economic issues will be dealt with through "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" distribution systems, through aboriginal-style bartering, and through local currencies based on the value of workers' time, the value of the goods the currency is buying, and other hair-brained schemes that are either proven failures or that will plainly fail in the face of total global economic collapse.
IMO, the best anyone can do to prepare for Peak Oil is to find a relatively intact 19th-century town, of a few thousand people or less, that has access to lots of very-nearby natural and agricultural resources. A thriving farmer's market is a good sign, as is a preponderance of 100+-year-old houses, where people lived and were happy before coal, oil, natural gas, etc.
Paula,
That site is helpful for understanding the neocons from a philosophical angle. I had come across the Strauss teachings before although not paid much attention to them because they represented an anathema to my view. Machiavelli was no hero of mine for sure. The governance by lie is a rather savage form of government. History is full of it. I am also interested in the more common commentary of defense that is being used. I just haven’t found much of it yet.
Your analysis of the CA and OR communities is interesting. I hadn’t come across enough information to make the link with Marxism.
I would question your abhorrence with some kind of Marxist ideology with distribution of resources (principally food) in the beginning, that is, when the extreme effects of the collapse are first being felt. What I fear with an immediate concern with the establishment of currency is the continuation of a hierarchy of the haves and have nots instead of getting people fed and keeping them warm in the winter.
Like I have stated before, I do not have much expertise in financial affairs and so I maybe am speaking out in ignorance.
I would like to point out that the early 20th century experiments with socialized living didn’t result in a lot of successes, but some did succeed. While it is religious based in many cases, communities like the Mennonites, Amish, The Farm in I believe Kentucky, and even the Mormons have been quite successful in making sure everyone is fed and kept warm and they have endured for a long time. I would also expect that any monetary experimentation will not be readily considered nor adopted until the pinch is felt.
Finding a 19th century town may be a bit of a problem also. Not too many left I would think. And, people like myself and wife do not have the resources to pack up again and move long distances. Got to work with what we have. This small community is largely not very sophisticated, which is fine with us. We have been amazed at the talents and diverse interests that we continually come across around here, for so small a population, especially. We are on the Eastern side of the Cascades, which seems to be largely a very different type of population and thinking than what we found on the coast. I sense a far more pragmatic approach than the liberal idealism that characterizes the coastal communities. The one problem we have here that you mentioned is access to agricultural products close by. Natural resources we have in abundance.
It is sure going to be interesting to see how this all shakes out.
Cyclone,
Take it easy. You want to see what happens, don't you?
As far as Sibel Edmonds, I read that article yesterday and just couldn't believe that the same judge was involved in both of these 2 very different cases that normally would not have the same judge (I think) and then that they are all involve the same players.
But what to do about it? The attorney General of US is useless as far as seeing something other than what Booshco wants him to see.
State Attorney Generals?
Congressman?
Write to bigger media outlets?
Any ideas
Paula,
I used your email address to try and establish a link with you and am also putting out this notice to you. I have spent enough time investigating "the money problem" at your site to now have questions and comments. I currently have about 2 pages of them and am not half way through your '$170 tomato' proposal. I further assume that this will be such lengthy conversation that it would simply take up too much space as postings here. How would you like to handle this?
murph -- I replied to your email, should be there any nanosecond now. :)
Cylone sorry to hear you are bit busted up but I am very happy you are still with us.
I wish you a speedy recovery and I look forward to whatever information you can provide us in your time.
Ely
Rockpicker,
I have done some follow up on this Sibel Edmonds affair. I am blown away by what I am finding out. That one sure got by me. Didn't know anything about it.
Thanks for turning me on to it. Another example of Macavilian government by deceit.
Holy smoke...didn't stop by for a couple of days and you almost get yourself killed?!
I'm glad to hear you're alive!
hang in there! I'll be praying for your speedy recovery.
Peace.
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